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Poster: Max Chorak Date: Jul 1, 2007 12:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: We the people..

GOP: if they're mediocre (which I can't say they are freakin' outstanding) than why am I so attracted to the band? I saw tea leaf green a while ago, and they really surprised me. I can't say what a dead show would have been like, but these guys really really kicked ass. Is it the whole band together mixed with the vibe and some of the personality and character that I can hear through the music/tunings/banters ?

EDIT: i think I got what you mean "the Grateful Dead are mediocre".. do you mean by ways of professionality (if that's a word)? Like.. phil literally just picked up the bass (although he was a professionally trained trumpetist), and jerry (although I think he had some lessons early on? piano lessons) was never formally trained... I guess Bill was classically trained and all.. but yeah. Now i'm not so sure I got what you meant by "mediocre"

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Poster: ghostofpig Date: Jul 1, 2007 4:08pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: We the people..

I guess I mean that unlike slick "professional" bands--groups that play each song as it was on the l.p. or at least note by note the same nightly--the Dead just went up there and did it.
I remember a comment Bobby made once. When asked whether he knew as he stepped on stage if this was going to be a bad night, he replied that he knew that morning!

What makes the Dead great is what makes them frustrating: When they were all in a groove--watch out! But if someone was off, ouch. Never could tell from night to night or song to song. Remember--they played constantly--more than any other big time band. And there were some very bad stretches.

Having an audience like they did made the ride great no matter what, but it also allowed them to get sloppy or lazy, knowing that they weren't being judged for accuracy.

I will say this too, and you can all come over on the 4th and barbeque me, but after so many gigs, it's easy to phone it in sometimes. And, as things got bigger--like the venues and the stage size--the intimacy that allowed for more tight jamming was lost. Not to mention that they did get, uh, older. There are great moments all over the place, great renditions, some of which pop up in the middle of mediocre or lousy concerts. And there are great concerts with shitty moments.

What more could one expect?

Why was it that so many deadheads wanted to catch "runs"? For many, it was the hope of being there for that one night where it all happened!

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Poster: barongsong Date: Jul 2, 2007 7:59am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: We the people..

Amen to that GoP. I agree with 95% of everything in that last post.